Minutes of August
29, 1834 |
Concluding testimony
in the Sylvester Smith case. He refused to take Hyrum's order to move the camp §; threatened dog (Joseph's?) §. Accusation that Joseph appropriated a quilt §. Sylvester refused Parley bread §. Sylvester guilty, must publish confession §. Sylvester signs under duress. |
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Speaking times are
given on page 73 of the minutes, after the testimony and decision. Here
the times appear in the notation column to the right of each speaker's
testimony. |
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August 29, 1834 |
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Kirtland council, 63–73. |
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Kirtland, Ohio. |
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Description |
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Council being organized
in due form, the testimony was continued … |
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Moderator |
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[Newel K. Whitney] |
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Clerks |
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Oliver Cowdery and Orson Hyde |
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Luke Johnson testimony
Lyman and Sylvester stop, others continue
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Luke S. Johnson:
As the camp neared the twenty-five mile prairie in Missouri, Joseph sent
him back to assist those at the recent creek crossing and said that the
camp would be moving on to the prairie. When he returned, Lyman
Wight and
Sylvester Smith's men were stopped
for supper, while others were following the ensign, or flag, forward. Sylvester
called out to them [64] "who
they were following; whether Gen. Wight or some other man?" |
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I have reconstructed Luke's convoluted
narrative for what seems to be proper sequence of events. Cf. ¶ Sylvester
Smith.
Original: White
Lyman Wight
had been appointed "general of the camp" on June 8, nine
days before this incident began. ¶ Heber's
Accounts of Zion's Camp (1) |
Admit dividing camp
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That evening Lyman and Sylvester
"were called upon to give an account of themselves, why they had sought
to divide the camp? They both acknowledged
that they had been out of the way by so doing." |
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Rebuke not unusually severe |
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President Smith did throw a trumpet or horn, but not at Sylvester. "It
only fell to the ground near to them (himself and Brother Sylvester) … He
further said that the reproofs given by President Smith at the time were
no more severe than he had often heard him give previously; that he did
not consider him angry, as he has been represented." |
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Hyrum Smith testimony
Joseph asks Hyrum about going to prairie, orders move |
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Brother Hyrum Smith said that when the camp first came to the creek himself and brother Joseph were forward, that while [65] the teams were crossing, Brother asked whether it was advisable
to move into the prairie to camp. After some consultation, it was first advised to [-] camp in the bushes near the edge of the prairie. While making prepareations to encamp they were informed that a mob intended to make an attack upon them that night. |
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They further consulted upon their situation and himself and brother Thayer, were required by brother Joseph, to go onto the edge of the Prairie where they might encamp. They looked out a place but it was near the bushes, and brother Joseph gave an order to go forward into the prairie. … |
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Luke sent to assist at creek |
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Some further remarks were offered on the subject of a visit from a mob, and preparations were made with the guns & Some feared were entertained for the teams and families yet crossing the creek, and it was thought advisable to send back a company to guard & assist them over, among whom was brother Luke Johnson. |
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Hyrum standard bearer |
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He [Hyrum] then took the flag or standard (as he had previously carried it) and gave the word to move forward, and the teams immediately began to follow. |
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Lyman defies Hyrum |
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After the company had come up in the Prairie himself with brother R. Orton received an order to call upon brother L. Wight to place strong guard around the camp that night, but he refused doing any thing further, because he supposed that he, (brother Hyrum) supposed he had ordered the camp into the prairie without an order from the commander of the company |
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Roger Orton |
Lyman and Sylvester reproved |
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He was then informed by brother Joseph that it was by his (brother J's) order that the camp should move into the prairie. He was present when brother Joseph reproved brothers, L. Wight & Sylvester Smith [66] and saw the transactions or design to throw it at brother Sylvester, |
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he has no such thought at the time, nor could he have since—that at the time when he (brother Joseph) had finished his remarks to brothers Wight & Sylvester, that he threw the horn upon the ground. That brother Wight told him the next day that he had had a jealousy existing in his mind against him (brother Hyrum) for some days, but now his mind was satisfied, and he said that when he received the order for moving the camp into the prairie, that brothers L. Wight & Sylvester were near by. |
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Adjourn |
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Adjourn to 1 p.m. |
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Oliver Cowdery and Orson Hyde clerks |
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Resume |
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At 1:00 the clerk calls the names of the moderator, counselors, and
"complainant & defendant," and "business" resumes. |
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Brigham Young
Nothing wrong with Joseph's conduct |
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Brother Brigham Young, said that he was in company with brother Joseph from about 27 miles
from this place [Kirtland] till they arrived in Clay County Missouri, That at the time the difficulty occurred on the prairie, when the camp was divided, that he concurred in what brother Hiram had said, and that he could not relate it any more particular than he (brother Hyrum) had done. |
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He further said that he had not seen any thing in brother Joseph's conduct to justify the charge previously made by brother Sylvester, that his heart was corrupt. So far from this, he had not seen the last shadow of any thing of the kind. He had not seen any thing in his (brother Joseph's) conduct, during his journey to the West unbecoming his [67] profession as a man of God. |
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Rebukes didn't hurt Sylvester's
reputation |
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Question by brother Sylvester. |
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Did you not think that my character was injured in the minds of the weaker part of the camp in consequence of those reproofs and chastizements which were given me by brother Joseph? |
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¶ Satan Came
Also
¶ Heber's Zion's
Camp
¶ Sylvester Smith |
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Answer. I did not. |
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Dog |
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Brother Brigham further said in relation to a certain difficulty which took place relative to a dog.— |
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that on a certain evening after crossing the Missisippi River, brother Sylvester came up with the remaining part of the camp, when the dog came out and insulted him. he knew not whether he touched him or not. |
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At this place there
was some feelings of hostility manifested again by Sylvester
Smith, in consequence
of a dog growling at him while he was marching his company up to the camp,
he being the last that come over the river. |
Joseph defends dog |
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The next morning, after hearing considerable complaint and murmuring
concerning the dog. Brother Joseph spoke to several brethren present and said, |
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The next morning Brother
Joseph said |
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I will descend to the spirit that is in the camp, to show you the spirit
you are of, for I want to drive it from the camp. "The first man that kills
that dog, or my dog I will whip him!" |
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that he would descend to be spirit that was manifested by some
of the brethren, to let them see the folly of their wickedness. He rose
up and commenced speaking, by saying, "if any man insults me, or abuses
me, I will stand in my own [789] defence at the expense of my life; and
if a dog growl at me, I will let him know that I am his master." |
Sylvester's retort |
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He thought about this time, that brother Sylvester came up, who said "If that dog bites me I
will kill him." |
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At
this moment Sylvester Smith, who had just returned from where he had turned
out his horses to feed, came up, and hearing Brother Joseph make those remarks,
said, "if that dog bites me, I'll kill him." |
Back and forth |
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If you do said brother Joseph "I will whip you." |
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Brother Joseph
turned to Sylvester and said, "if you kill that dog, I'll whip you,"
and then went on to show the brethren how wicked and unchristianlike such
conduct appeared before the eyes of truth and justice. |
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If you do said brother Sylvester, I shall defend
myself the best way that I can! |
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Joseph reproves camp attitude |
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Brother Joseph then said that he could in the name of the Lord. He brother
Joseph asked the brethren if they were not ashamed of such a spirit? said
he, I am. He then proceeded to reprove them for condescending to that spirit,
that they ought to be above it, that it was the spirit of a dog, and men
ought never to place themselves on a level with beasts. but he possessed
of a more noble disposition. |
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He then said he had descended to that spirit in order to show the spirit
which was among them. |
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He further said that this explanation gave general satisfaction, and the most of them said that he had only made those remarks for the purpose of intrusting them, and warning them against such a spirit or disposition. |
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Brethren L. Johnson & H. C. Kimball concurred. |
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Lyman E. Johnson
Heber
C. Kimball |
David Elliott |
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Brother D. Elliot said he was not present when these reproofs were given in the mor[68]ning, that the circumstances were related to him afterward, which disaffected his mind and gave him some disareeable feeling, that at noon. he heard brother Joseph give a further explanation, which perfectly satisfied his mind. |
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David Elliott (b. 1799 in Charleston, New
York; d. 1855 in Salt Lake City), blacksmith, lives in Ithaca.
Baptized 1831. Marries Mary Cahoon, 1831. Member, First Quorum of Seventy.
To Missouri with Kirtland Camp, 1838. After Missouri, Springfield,
Illinois. Papers: 1:484. |
Many unhappy with Joseph over
dog
Satisfied when Joseph explained at noon |
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He further said that during the forenoon he learned that there
were <many> of the brethern dissatisfied with brother Joseph's remarks, concerning
the dog in the morning, that after the explanation at noon was so generally
given, he thought that every one in the camp might have known it. |
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David was "perfectly satisfied" with Joseph's explanation. |
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Lorenzo Booth
Nothing wrong with Joseph's conduct |
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Brother Lorenzo Booth concurred in the statement of brother Brigham Young; though he was not present in the morning when the reproofs were given concerning the dog that he was with brother Joseph twenty seven miles from this place to Missouri and a part of the way home. That he did not see any thing in
brother Joseph character. derogatory to a man professing Religion. |
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Joseph did not steal quilt
Given to him
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That he was present during a certain transaction, which occurred during their journey home, respecting certain articles of beading [bedding]. That he had has heard since his return that brother Joseph Smith; Junr. and Ezra Thayer fought, that he was present during the whole transaction, and that there was no fighting, |
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He further said in relation to a certain report which had come to his knowledge since his return from Missouri that brother Joseph had taken a bed-quilt which was not his property. That while at New
Portage Ohio, on their way to Missouri, one of the brethren gave him brother Joseph two bed-quilts, which he brother Booth had charge of as he was the individual who drove the team for brother Joseph and had charge of the baggage. That befoer leaving Clay County Missouri he brother B. took them to be washed, and after starting for home, he went and put them aboard of the Waggon, the babbage of which he [69] had the charge during their journey home. That he brought the same back with him,—has seen them since and knows that the one which was said to be the property of another
individual, is the one which was given brother Joseph at Norton. |
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Frederick
G. Williams
Marked quilts—not stolen |
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Brother F. G. Williams, said while at Norton,
certain articles were handed him to mark, among which were two bed-quilts,
which he marked with common ink. Has seen certain bed-quilts since his
return, and has no doubt but this one in question, is the one he marked. |
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Frederick G. Williams |
Brigham Young
Joseph reproves Sylvester over rations |
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Brother B. Young further said, relative to a certain difficulty arising out of a circumstance concerning some bread. That brother
J. S. Carter on their to Missouri, on the line between Ohio and Indiana said to brother Joseph is this thing right? |
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"We purchased flour <and meal,> baked our own bread and cooked our own provisions generally. which were good though sometimes scanty: and some times we had Johnny cake. or corn dodger. instead of flour bread." MH-A, 479.
On the shortage of bread after crossing into Missouri,, see Hiram Winter's Zion's Camp |
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"What thing? concerning brother P. P. Pratt (h)
asking brother Sylvester for bread for supper. He then learned that brother Pratt had asked brother Sylvester for some bread, that brother Sylvester had bread at the time, but directed him to some one else, who he brother S. said had a sufficient. that brother Pratt called upon that individual and could not obtain any: That he was present when brother Joseph told brother Sylvester that
he had not conducted right in the matter. that he ought to impart when he had in [preference?] to directing one where he was not certain he could obtain—that by so doing some might be deprived of food at times. |
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Sylvester justified himself |
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He further said that brother S. contends he has been right and justified his own conduct in the matter. That brother Joseph reasoned with brother Sylvester to convince him, that he brother S. was in a fault, but he continued to justify his course till brother J reproved him sharply. |
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He frequently hears the brethren speak of this circumstance, and all whom he heard say any thing on the subject manifested a satisfaction with brother J. and thought his [70] observations were correct and just, and the principles which he advanced to be just. |
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Lyman Sherman
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Brother Lyman Sherman said the he concurred in brother B. Youngs statement concerning the bread. That he thought that it was generally
known that brother Pratt, in consequence of brother Sylvester's <not> furnishing him with bread, was deprived of bread that night.— |
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That at the time when brother Joseph told him that brother Parley did
not obtain any bread in consequence of the same. |
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Jacob Bump
Sylvester claims Parley got bread |
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Brother Jacob Bump said that since the Brethren return[ed] from the West, that he went with Sylvester to
brother S. Rigdon to advise concerning the adjusting of certain complaints which were in circulation concerning brother Joseph's conduct to and from Mo.
that brother Sylvester told Sidney that Parley did obtain bread from the individual to whom he sent him. |
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Orson Hyde |
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Brother O. Hyde said that he concurred in the statements of brother B. Young concerning the circumstances which transpired at the
time the difficulty arose about the bread. |
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Lyman Johnson and Heber C. Kimball |
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Brethrin Lyman Johnson & Heber
C. Kimball concurred in the same statement. |
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Orson Hyde
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Brother Orson Hyde then exhibited an account current taken from the receipts of moneys and their properties expended during their late journey to and from Mo. |
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Frederick G.
Williams expense report
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This account was taken from documents kept during the journey by brother F. G. Williams. |
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Expense report correct |
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Brother F. G. Williams said that the account expi[nded] was correctly taken from his amounts as he had the charge of the monies and attended to paying it out &c. |
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Counselors |
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The case was then submitted to the council, and the counsellors everally spoke in their turns. |
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Afer which the Complainent and the accused also spoke. |
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Sylvester and Joseph |
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[71] Sylvester and Joseph each speak. |
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Decision
Publish confession
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The Moderator then proceeded to give a decision, That if brother
Sylvester Smith will acknowledge the following items of complaints before
this council & publish
the same in print, that he can remain yet a member of this church otherwise
he is expelled from the same. viz: |
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First, he is to acknowledge that he has wickedly and maliciously accused
our brother J. Smith Jr. with prophesying lies in the name of the Lord,
once on the line between Ohio and Indiana, and at another time after crossing
the Mississippi River, and at another time after leaving the Church in Missouri
at Florida.— |
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That he is to acknowledge that in making these charges against brother
J. S. Junior he has himself willfully and maliciously lied. |
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That he has maliciously told falsehoods, in saying that brother J. Smith
Junr. has abused him with insulting and abusive language and also injuring
his character and standing before the brethren while journeying to Missouri. |
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That he further cast out insinuations concerning brother J. S. Junrs
character which was also an evil malicious design to injure brother Josephs
standing in the church.— |
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That he further acknowledge that he has abused the former councils which
have set upon this case and wickedly and maliciously insulted their just
and righteous decisions.— |
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That he has further tantalized this present council, in seeking to excuse
himself contrary to the counselling of the counsellors. after acknowledging
that it was organized by the direction of revelation. |
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And further, that he has wilfully and maliciously lied, by saying that
brother J. Smith Junr had prohibited the liberty of speech on their journey
to Missouri. |
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That he also acknowledge that he has wickedly and maliciously lied by
charging brother J. S. Junr. of being possessed of a heart as corrupt as
hell. |
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Council agrees |
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[72] The Counsellors were then called ypon to give their assent to the foregoing decision, and concurred. in the same. |
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Sylvester's confession |
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I hereby certify that the foregoing charges or complaints are just and
true, and hereby acknowledge the same. as set forth in the decisions of this
council by signing my own proper name to their minutes with my own hand. |
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Sylvester Smith |
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Coerced |
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The above was signed for fear of [one or two canceled words] <punishment> |
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The entire line is in another hand and is probably an insertion. |
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The council then proceeded to transact some other business. brother Joseph
Smith Junr. the president of the church presiding. |
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Joseph to preach Sunday |
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It was agreed that the church in Kirtland be instructed on their particular
duties &c. on sunday by brother Joseph. |
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Brigham chorister |
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It was further decided that brother Brigham Young be appointed to take
the lead in singing in our meetings. |
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Close |
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The council then closed brother Reynolds Cahoon lead in prayer at fifteen
minutes before 3 oclock A.M. on Saturday the 29 <1834> |
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Oliver Cowdery / Orson Hyde clerks |
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