Samuel
Brown claims the church is being chastened because leaders speak against the Methodists.
He is given time to repent and surrenders his elder and high priest licenses. |
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August 1, 1834 |
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FWR
Far West Record: Minutes of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1830-1844, edited by Donald Q. Cannon and Lyndon W. Cook (Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Company, 1983).
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8588. |
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[Clay County] |
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Description |
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Convened again according
to adjournment. |
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Minutes
of July 31, 1834 |
Moderators |
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David
Whitmer and W. W. Phelps |
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Clerk |
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John
Whitmer |
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Roxa
Slade testimony
Methodist sanctification |
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Roxa Slade testifies that two or three weeks ago as I was in at Alanson
Clevelands, Br. Brown was there, and was talking about sanctification
and that there were many sanctified among the sects especially among the
Methodists; but this being a greater light, if they did not give heed
to it they would fall under condemnation;
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I then said if there was any person sanctified I should like to see one.
He said supposing I should bring myself as a sample.Have you ever
seen anything in me out of the way.I said no. I said I had belonged
to the Methodists once & that I never received but a small spark of
the Spirit among them.
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He said he believed it,and said I dont think you have as yet received
but a very little of the Spirit.but I have received three or four
great sparks among the Methodists. And you are teaching the same doctrine
that the heads of this Church do.
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Mormon
leaders dis Methodists |
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And one great reason that we are so chastened, is, that the heads have
so little charity for the Methodists.And unless they repent the
scourge will remain upon them. And if you continue in the way you are
now in, very soon you will loose all the spirit or it will withdraw from
you,and you shall be buffetted by satan, and you may go and ponder
on these things and see if I have not authority to say these things
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Roxa's testimony is
confirmed by Alanson Cleveland. |
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Caleb
Baldwin testimony |
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Caleb Baldwin testifies
that Brother Brown said missionaries should not preach that the world in
darkness, for they were not. He said he could not preach against the Methodists. |
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Caleb Baldwin Jr. and
Nancy Baldwin confirm Caleb Sr.'s testimony. |
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Sylvester
Hulet testimony
License issue |
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Sylvester Hulet that He and br. Brown met went together to br. Tub'sand
on the way there, Br. Brown took his lisence out of his pocket and showed
it to me and asked me how I would like to have such paperto which
I answered that I had made application to the Council for an ordination
some time since and was rejected.He seemed to talk to me in such
a manner that understood him to sensure the heads of this Church in some
things.
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Counselors
speak |
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Zebedee
Coltrin and Simeon Carter speak for the Church, Amasa Lyman (h)
and Parley P. Pratt (h) for Brother Brown. |
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It
seems to be a matter of policy not to take minutes on the counselors' remarks. |
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Adjourn for half an
hour. |
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Decision:
time to repent |
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When the council reconvenes,
David Whitmer opens with prayer, then renders the decision that "according
to the testimony and the voice of the Holy Spirit which is in us,"
God grants Brother Brown time to repent. If he confesses in the proper spirit,
he may retain his standing as "a private member in this Churchotherwise
we have no fellowship for you." |
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Sylvester
Hulet ordination void |
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The ordination of Sylvester
Hulet is "illegal," therefore "void and good for nothing." |
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The high council sanctions
the decision unanimously. |
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Samuel
Brown confesses, surrenders licenses |
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Brother Brown confesses
the charges and surrenders his licenses of elder and high priest. Elder's
license issued by Phineas Young in Pittsburgh, February 21, 1833; high
priest license by Luke S. Johnson,
Cincinnati, June 15, 1833. |
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At this point, Leonard
Rich replaces Parley P. Pratt, who has to leave. |
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Orson
Pratt is voted unanimously to
be clerk. |
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Charge
against Hulet branch |
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Nathan West submits
a charge against the Hulet branch concerning gifts. It is considered and
laid over for the next session. |
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Requests of Peter Whitmer
Jr. and Elisha H. Groves are also laid over. |
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