John Gould (1790 or 1791–[1870

Mormon History 1830-1844

John W. Gould (1790 or 1791–1880)

Messenger to Independence, Zion's Camp recruiter, seventy (briefly a president).
I am indebted to Connell Hill O'Donovan for discovering additional census information about John Gould. Apparently there were three men of the same name in the Church by the end of the Nauvoo period.
1790 or 1791 New York, living in Painesville, Ohio in 1840 and 1850 (census 8 children, aged 5-20)
Pastor, Freewill, Dryden, New York 1819 - 1824
Harriet b. 1812 in Vermont, living w/ Thompson in Euclid, 1860, 2 kids (b. 1850?) , 4.
James Thompson, b. Maine, 1799, living in Kirtland, 1870; wife, Lois, 2 daughters, 33, 26
A James Thompson, b. 1810-1820, living in Willoughby, 1840, wife 20-30
Harriet Gould b. 1802 in Hector, NY; md. Seymour Brunson in 1824 (d, 1840); md. John Elmer 1841



	A 59 (1790 or 1791) year old John Gould was living in Painesville in 1850 with a 52 year old wife Sarah, and 8 children, aged 5-20 (1830).		1750 cebsys

Born		1790 or 1791 in Onondaga County, New York.	The birth and death dates (1808–1851) in Origins, 548 are for a different John Gould who never lived in Kirtland, but did live in Nauvoo. The 1790 or 1791 birth date is from the 1850 census of Painesville, Ohio.
Died		February 24, 1880
Buried		Hampton Cemetery, Hampton, Franklin County, Iowa
Father		John Gould Sr.
Mother		Rhoda
Free Will Baptist minister		John Gould was minister of the Free Will Baptist Church of Spafford, Onondaga County, New York when the Mormon missionaries arrived in 1831. He and the families of Shadrach and Uriah Roundy were soon converted and moved to Ohio.	Everett Ellsworth Roundy, The Roundy Family in America (1942), 215.
		There was a Rev. John Gould who worked with an Edward E. Dodge in Dryden, New York from 1819 to 1824. When they commenced their labors, this Gould was "the only Free Baptist preacher in the state." Together they organized churches in Berkshire, Candor, and Oswego, New York and in Chocount, Pennsylvania.	N. F. Carter, Native Ministry of New Hampshire (Concord, N. H.: Rumford Printing Co., 1906), 441. Berkshire is 40 miles south of Spafford, 15 miles southeast of Candor, 15 north of Oswego, and 45 north of Chocount.
	¶	A society of the Free Will Baptist church was formed in the town [Candor, Tioga County] as early as 1816 and held meetings in convenient school houses. The first pastor was Rev. John Gould, who gained notoriety by departing for the west about 1830 and joining with the Mormon church. The local society dissolved about 1831.	LeRoy W. Kingman (ed.), History of Candor, NY, From Our County and Its People, A Memorial History of Tioga County, New York, (W. A. Fergusson & Co., N. Y., 1897), 444. (Courtesy of Connell Hill O'Donovan.)
		1830 daughter born in Spafford, Onondaga County, New York.	1830 census
Knew Smiths in New York Kirtland 1832 Child drugged, died		[James Thompson:] I married John Gould's daughter Harriet [in 1836]. Her father had been thirty years a Free-will Baptist minister in New York, and knew Jo Smith there. He became a Mormon and moved to Kirtland in the spring of 1832. I have often heard my wife and her parents tell about Joseph, the prophet, attempting to restore to consciousness their child which they claimed had been drugged. The child was buried.	"James Thompson's Statement," NTAM Apr. 1888 Source Harriet was born in Vermont in 1812. Spafford is 40 miles east of Fayette.
Westfield branch		[April 28, 1833, Noah Packard:] on Saturday night arrived at Westfield, Chetarchway [Chautauqua] Co., N.Y., where there was a branch of the Church. Sunday 28th, attended meeting and met Elder John Gould, William Cahoon and Amasa Lyman; had a powerful meeting; the spirit of the Lord rested down upon us and the people, and there were fifteen that came forward and were baptized by Elder Goold [Gould] and confirmed to the Church under our hands; here I also met Elder Gladen [Gladden] Bishop for the first time, who I immediately perceived was not in possession of a spirit congenial with the Spirit of God.	Noah Packard synopsis
Messenger to Independence		August 21, 1833 Joseph dispatches John and Orson Hyde to Jackson County with "advice to the saints in their unfortunate situation through the late outrage of the mob." Leave Kirtland about August 31, arrive in Independence about September 28.	Revelations, 204; TS 6, no.1 (Apr. 1, 1845): 850.
		We started on foot with our valises on our backs, a distance of about one thousand miles. We travelled about forty miles per day through a sickly fever and ague country, swimming rivers, and pushing our clothes over on a log or raft before us. We arrived in Jackson County about the beginning of the Saints' troubles there. We delivered our letters and documents, and were sometimes surrounded by the mob, who threatened to wring our heads off from our shoulders. Several little skirmishes took place while there, and some few were killed and wounded.	The violence began July 20. ¶ Missouri Persecutions (1833–1834) (1) ¶ Orson Hyde (h)
In God's hands		[October 12, 1833 revelation:] Thy brethren, my servants Orson Hyde and John Gould, are in my hands; and inasmuch as they keep my commandments they shall be saved.	¶ D&C 100:14
Kirtland		[November 25, 1833] Brothe[rs] Orson Hyde and John Gould [28] returned from Zion and brough[t] the melencholly intelegen[ce] of the riot in Zion with the inhabitants in pers[ec]uting the brethren.	Diary-1, 27–28 // PWJS, 30.
Joseph and Parley John in Westfield, Chautauqua County, New York		On February 24, 1834 revelation instructs Joseph Smith and Parley P. Pratt (h), Lyman Wight (h) (swh) and Sidney Rigdon, Orson Hyde and Orson Pratt to travel in pairs raising volunteers to redeem Zion. Two days later, Joseph and Parley leave Kirtland, arriving at Westfield, Chautauqua County, New York, on Saturday, March 1. They stay with church member and tavern owner Job Lewis, and preach in the branch on Sunday.	¶ D&C 103:37–40 Job Lewis: Journal history, May 23, 1836. Diary-1, 58
		March 4–5, 1834 accompanies Joseph and Sidney from Westfield to Freeman Nickerson's in Perrysburg, Cattaraugus County.	Diary-1, 58.
Rounds up volunteers		[March 7, 1834] started ~~toards~~ on our journy accompany<ed> By Br Nicison [Nickerson] Leaving Brs goold [Gould] and Mathews to Prepare <and gether up> the companys in the Churches in that region and meet us in Ohio Reddy [to leave] for Zion the first of May	Diary-1, 58.
New York		June 16, 1834 preaching in New York with Evan M. Greene.	Revelations, 204.
New York conference		January 24–25, 1835 chairs conference of eleven branches in Freedom, New York.	W. A. Cowdery, MA 1, no. 5 (Feb. 1835): 75.
President, Westfield church		[May 11, 1835] The church at Westfield was represented by Elders Gro. Babcock & James Burnham (the presiding Elder, John Gould being absent on a Journey) …	Quorum of the Twelve
Acting elders quorum president		August 17, 1835 as "acting President," organizes the "travelling Elders" at the General Assembly which adopts the 1835 Doctrine and Covenants.	¶ Minutes of Oct 3, 1835
Rebuked by Joseph		[October 3, 1835 Reynolds Cahoon accuses John of] making expressions which is calculated to do injury to the great cause which we have expoused and manifesting a very strong dissatisfaction against the teachings of the Presidency of the church." The two talk it out and "all difference of feelings was allayed and the wound was healed.	Minutes of Oct. 3, 1835 John is charged with "giving credence to false and slanderous reports instigated to Injure bro Sidney Rigdon also Dean Gould for thretning bro Sidney Rigdon and others." Diary-2, 4.
Anointing		January 28, 1836 one of twenty-four elders to receive their anointing in the House of the Lord. " … and the Lord poured out his spirit, and some spake with tongues and prophecied."	Elders' Record, 4. "In the evening met the quorums of the High Priesats in the west room of the upper loft of the Lord.s house & in company with my council of the presidency —
Seventy		1836 ordained a seventy.	Revelations, 204.
Kirtland clerk		1837 clerk for Kirtland justice of the peace	Origins, 548.
President of Seventy		April 6, 1837 at solemn assembly, one of six new presidents of the Seventy replacing those who had previously been ordained high priests.	¶ Minutes of Apr. 6, 1837
Deposed as a president of Seventy		[September 3, 1837] John Gould was objected to and on learning that Levi Hancock one of the former presidents of the Seventies was not an high priest, he was chosen in the place of John Gould.	¶ Minutes of Sept. 3, 1837
Word of Wisdom committee		[October 23, 1837 named to committee with Luke Johnson and Reynolds Cahoon to call on John Johnson Jr.] and see if he would desist from selling spirituous liquors to those who were in the habit of getting intoxicated, and report to the authorities of the Church those members who might drink spirits at his house.	HC 2:520.
Painesville		1840 living in Painesville, Ohio.	1840 census
Mason		[1842–1844] "Probably a Mason" at a Mormon lodge in Nauvoo and Montrose.	Origins, 548.
Endowed		February 3, 1846 endowed.	Revelations, 204.
Michigan to Illinois		May 2, 1846 leaves Detroit for Illinois with William Burton.	Revelations, 204.
Painesville		1850 living in Painesville, Lake County, Ohio, with wife Sarah and seven children aged 5 to 20.	1850 census
Iowa		1860 living in Geneva, Franklin County, Iowa.	1860 census
		1870 living in Washington, Franklin County, Iowa.	1870 census

		Rev. S. F. Whitney's Recollection of John Gould [Jr.]
Seducer		Elder Gould, it was said, had been expelled by the Free-will Baptists because he had seduced seven women in one [Baptist] church he was pastor of, including one preacher's wife; he was bad before he joined the Mormons and worse after.	Rev. S. F. W. Source
Tries to convert Whitney		He was sent to convert me. I was painting my brother's house. He first read a chapter or two from the Bible in the unknown tongue, and then stated he could convince anybody of the truth of Mormonism who had a mind capable of feeling the force of his argument.
		My brother's wife [Elizabeth Ann Whitney] said I had better spend time to have him do it. It would be of infinite value to me. I objected to neglecting my work. My brother [N. K. Whitney] said he would give me the time.
		I told Gould I had not a mind susceptible of the force of his arguments. He said I had. I told him it was not good manners in me to dispute him. He asked if I believed the Scriptures. I told him I did.
		He inquired if I possessed the signs of those who believed, to heal the sick, cast out devils, and raise the dead. I replied I had all I lived for.
		He retorted, I see the devil in your eye. I asked him if he had any signs. He said he had. You say I have a devil, I adjure you to cast him out. He replied, I had more than Mary Magdalene. You say I have a devil and that you have the power to cast him out, and I adjure you to. But instead of casting him out, you blackguard me.
		I said you are in danger, I am a stronger man than you. I have read of seven sons of one Sceva who undertook to cast out a devil in the name of Jesus, etc. I laid down my paint pot and brush and started for him. He fled. My brother's wife censured me.

		Families	Based on Connell O'Donovan research
Wife		Unknown, b. 1790 or 1791	Based on Connell O'Donovan research
Children		Harriet, b. 1812 in Vermont; md. James Thompson [1836] in Ohio Daughter, b. [1810–1815] in [Candor, Tioga, New York] Son, b. [1815–1820] in Candor, Tioga, New York Daughter, b. [1820–1825]
Wife		Sarah, b. 1800; d. Dec. 10, 1891; buried, Hampton Cemetery, Hampton, Franklin, Iowa
Children		Charlotte, b. 1830 in Spafford, Onondaga, NewYork Samuel, b.1831 in NewYork Child, [1833–1835] Phebe, b. 1834 in Ohio; md. Isaac W. Benson [1856] in Ohio Benjamin, b. 1835 in Ohio Esther Ann, b. in 1838 in Ohio John W. Jr., b. 1840 in Painesville, Lake, Ohio; md. Sarah E. Ross, [1868]; d. Oct. 27, 1871. William H., b. Nov. 1845 in Ohio; md. Louisa J. Robinson of Vermont, Sep. 4, 1867 in Franklin County, Iowa
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